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Curious Thinkers 25: Four Takeaways Shaping the Future of Finance

Last month, we welcomed over 200 clients and partners from across banking, fintech, and payments to Curious Thinkers 2025, our annual event.

The two-day experience invited clients and partners to step back from day-to-day pressures and explore the evolving relationship between humans and technology. Across keynotes, panels, and immersive sessions, discussions moved beyond the next trend or product to the bigger question: how can we build a digital future grounded in trust, empathy, and shared progress?

From artificial intelligence (AI) and identity to leadership and collaboration, the summit revealed four defining themes shaping the road ahead: AI with Purpose, Trust as Advantage, Human Leadership, and Collective Progress.

1. Using AI Responsibly and with Purpose

Artificial intelligence dominated the conversation as a powerful, immediate force reshaping the way we work, connect, and make decisions. The focus has shifted from what’s possible to what’s responsible: how can we harness AI’s potential while managing the risks it creates?

AI is already transforming fraud detection, compliance, and customer experience, unlocking new efficiency and insight, but its value depends on the strength of the systems behind it. This includes the integrity of data, the ethics guiding design, and the governance that ensures accountability. In other words, the race is not to move faster, but to move smarter.

Brad Daffy, Partner at KPMG, noted that while 42% of U.S. organisations already use agentic AI systems to automate workflows across customer service, software development and compliance, accountability remains a key concern.

He also raised that confidence in AI is low locally, with only 36% of Australian’s willing to trust it.

The leaders best positioned to succeed are those who balance ambition with awareness, pairing innovation with a mindset of curious caution. They recognise that sustainable progress requires both speed and control, ensuring AI enhances human decision-making rather than replacing it.

2. Rebuilding Trust Through Payments, Data, and Digital Identity

The conversations at Curious Thinkers underscored a shared reality: consumer confidence has been shaken by the industrial scale of scams, fragmented identity systems, and the erosion of digital privacy.

Sue-Lin Wong, award winning journalist, host of Scam Inc. & Asia Correspondent for the Economist, revealed that scam networks now rival the illegal drug trade, with an estimated global impact of over $500 billion.

Rebuilding that trust is now a collective priority. The path forward lies in creating a more secure, interoperable, and human-centred trust architecture that brings payments, data, and identity together. The convergence of these systems is already underway, paving the way for user-controlled digital identities and verifiable credentials that protect consumers without creating friction.

Marie Austenaa, Head of Digital Identity, Europe, Visa, pointed to the Europe’s eIDAS 2.0 framework as a model for interoperable identity systems.

The Hon. Victor Dominello projected that in Australia, a national digital ID framework could unlock $19–32 billion in annual productivity gains.

Such frameworks have the power to transform the experience of both customers and institutions, replacing cumbersome verification processes with seamless, secure authentication. They also create the foundation for a more resilient digital economy, where security and convenience can finally coexist.

For financial institutions, this shift represents both a challenge and a competitive opportunity. In a world where trust itself has become scarce, being seen as transparent, ethical, and protective of customer well-being is a brand advantage in its own right.

3. The Value of Human Leadership in a Digital World

Beneath the layers of technology and transformation, Curious Thinkers 2025 returned time and again to a single truth: progress is human.

Leaders today are operating in an era defined by complexity and constant change. There is a need for a new kind of leadership that prioritises empathy, resilience, and purpose alongside performance. The ability to connect meaningfully, inspire trust, and foster psychological safety within teams is no longer optional; it’s a strategic capability.

Dr. Adam Fraser, Founder of The Evolution Lab, highlighted the toll of digital transformation on frontline staff, including secondary traumatic stress. Fraser advised leaders to advocate for “psychological first aid” and support emotional wellbeing in the workplace.

Equally, the customer experience has emerged as the ultimate differentiator. In a world of near-instant payments and intelligent automation, it’s emotion that drives loyalty. Organisations that design around human needs, feelings, and expectations are those best placed to stand out in an increasingly commoditised market.

As the pace of change accelerates, so too does the pressure on people. The discussions highlighted a growing awareness of the human toll of digital transformation, from burnout to decision fatigue. Investing in wellbeing, emotional intelligence, and culture isn’t a “soft” initiative; it’s the bedrock of sustainable growth.

4. Driving Growth Through Collaboration

Perhaps the most urgent takeaway is that no organisation can navigate this transformation alone. The challenges facing the payments ecosystem have outgrown the capacity of individual players.

Collaboration has shifted from being a strategic option to an operational necessity. The future will be built on shared infrastructure, collective intelligence, and cross-sector partnerships that balance innovation with inclusion. This ecosystem mindset is already evident in global initiatives that blend public policy, private investment, and regulatory design — and it’s gaining momentum in Australia.

Marie Austenaa described the EU’s digital identity pilots as examples of successful public-private co-creation. Breaking down silos and aligning around common standards will be critical to the next phase of industry progress.

Looking Ahead: Turning Shared Insight into Collective Action

The future of payments will be defined not by how quickly technology evolves, but by how responsibly and collaboratively we use it.

As AI, data, and digital identity continue to reshape the landscape, the real measure of progress will be trust. Trust in systems, in institutions, and in each other. By leading with purpose, empathy, and partnership, the industry can move beyond adaptation to true transformation.

From Leadership to Loyalty

Charlotte Rush pictured on stage at Curious Thinkers 2024

How To Build Customer Experience Excellence by Unlocking Leadership Potential
In an industry driven by precision, trust, and innovation, payments businesses often focus on the technical infrastructure that powers their operations . However, a fundamental, often overlooked element of success lies in the people who lead these businesses—your managers. As Charlotte Rush, Head of Growth at Inventium, pointed out during Cuscal’s Curious Thinkers 2024 event, leadership is not only the heart and soul of organisations but also a critical driver of customer experience and, ultimately, business performance.

The Leadership Tightrope
In today’s fast-moving business landscape, managers face unprecedented expectations. They are tasked with motivating teams, navigating technological disruption, and maintaining regulatory compliance—all while being thrust into roles with minimal preparation. As Rush aptly noted,

Management is the only job you don’t practice before you do it.

This gap in preparation often results in managers who are technically proficient but lack the people-centric skills needed to build team resilience, navigate complexity, and inspire innovation. The consequences ripple outward, affecting employee engagement and ultimately customer satisfaction.

Why Leaders Matter
Your managers don’t just oversee operations. They are custodians of culture with the power to influence how well teams adapt to change, innovate, and ultimately enable seamless customer experiences.

How Smart Companies Build Better Leaders 
Organisations that excel at leadership development recognise it as a strategic investment, not a cost. Rush’s research highlighted several traits that standout companies share to prepare their managers for the challenges of tomorrow.

Here are the top strategies you can adopt: 

1. Create training built for real-world challenges 
Seek, a leader in talent management services uses virtual reality and in-person workshops to prepare their leaders for complex scenarios. Payments businesses can tailor similar training to simulate the environments their executives will navigate during growth phases.

2. Give leaders the support they need
Zillow, a USA-based tech real-estate business, pairs managers in mentorship programs to share ideas and problem-solve. Payments leaders could use peer networks to tackle challenges like scaling secure systems or improving customer retention.

3. Test leadership strategies before rolling them out
Deloitte’s ‘people panel’ experiments with leadership ideas on small groups before applying them broadly. Payments businesses can test compliance processes or CX innovations the same way.

4. Show that leadership is a priority
Seek’s CEO personally invites executives to their leadership program, making attendance non-negotiable. This level of executive sponsorship signals to teams that leadership development is integral to business success.

Measuring What Matters
Investing in leadership is only as effective as the metrics used to evaluate it. Rush cautioned against reliance on “vanity metrics,” such as generic engagement scores or isolated training attendance. Instead, payments organisations must tie leadership outcomes to tangible business goals:

  • Customer Metrics: Track improvements in customer retention, satisfaction, and transaction speed as leadership skills evolve.
  • Employee Performance: Measure team efficiency, error reduction, and adherence to regulatory standards under well-trained managers.
  • Operational Outcomes: Monitor the scalability and security of payment systems as leadership initiatives take hold.

Strong Leaders Build Strong Payments Businesses
To drive meaningful change, payments organisations must move beyond technical training and invest in leadership development that fosters a customer-first mindset, builds resilient teams, and delivers measurable business outcomes. As Rush concluded, “If our leaders fail, we fail.”

Watch Back to the Future: The Workplace for 2025 and Beyond from Curious Thinkers 2024 for more actionable insights into leadership excellence and how it drives competitive advantage in the payments space.

Cuscal announces membership of FDATA Australasia

Cuscal becomes a member of FDATA

Sydney, 18 March 2021 – Cuscal announced today that it will become the latest member of the Australasia chapter of the Financial Data and Technology Association (FDATA). Membership of FDATA will provide Cuscal with valuable advisory, regulatory and industry engagement opportunities through FDATA’s deep knowledge of Open Finance, network of global experts and position on working groups, advisory panels and task forces.

As a Consumer Data Right (CDR) intermediary, Cuscal is committed to supporting data holders, consumers and data recipients to connect safely and securely to unlock the value of data. Cuscal’s Collaborative Data Exchange will manage the technicalities of the CDR for data holders and data recipients, leaving enterprise to focus on one of the most powerful opportunities in Australian commerce. Forward intelligence from FDATA on key policy matters, changes and trends from Australia and across the globe will form part of the Collaborative Data Exchange’s program of continuous development, helping clients to respond to changes in the CDR, including the emergence of new regulation, expansion of the CDR to new designated industries, and updates to data-standards.

Commenting on Cuscal’s membership of the regional chapter, Richard Prior, CEO of FDATA, said:

FDATA is delighted to welcome Cuscal to our worldwide community of members. As Open Finance proliferates across the globe, FDATA shares Cuscal’s goal of enabling the future, supporting the delivery of Open Finance for Australia, and the enormous potential and ambition enshrined in the CDR.

Kieran McKenna, Chief Risk Officer at Cuscal, commented:

We’re delighted to be joining FDATA Australasia at this critical moment during the implementation of Open Banking in Australia. Through our membership we’re looking forward to representing the interest of our clients and engaging with FDATA’s community of members, the government, regulators, policy makers and other stakeholders to help guide the formulation of policies relating to Open Banking and Open Finance in Australia.

About FDATA
The Financial Data and Technology Association (FDATA) is a not-for-profit representing fintechs operating in Open Banking and Open Finance. FDATA work with government, policy makers, and regulators to implement a fair and ethical competitive landscape that promotes competition, innovation, and better consumer outcomes.

About Cuscal
For more than 50 years Cuscal has championed competition in banking and payments in Australia, leveraging our scale, banking knowledge, technical expertise and regulatory experience to deliver reliable and secure solutions that supports the flow of transactional data between customers and enterprises, ensuring fair access to the Australian payments and banking ecosystem.

Media contact
Simone Shields, sshields@cuscal.com.au

Bianca Bates is now Chief Client Officer & Deputy CEO

Craig and Bianca in front of Cuscal logo

We are pleased to announce the appointment of Bianca Bates as Deputy Chief Executive Officer of Cuscal.

Bianca joined Cuscal in July 2014 as General Counsel and Company Secretary before pivoting her career to pursue more commercial responsibility and deeper relationships with our clients in her role as Chief Client Officer.

Whilst Bianca will continue in her current role, her title will change to Chief Client Officer & Deputy CEO in recognition of her expanded role of being Craig Kennedy’s delegate when he is unavailable.

In addition to leading our Product and Service teams, Bianca will take a more leading role in Cuscal’s engagement with industry bodies, regulators and shareholders.

Commenting on the appointment, Cuscal Managing Director Craig Kennedy said: “From the feedback that I have received from our Board, Shareholders, Clients and Staff over the past six years, I am confident that Bianca will continue to excel in her new expanded capacity as Chief Client Officer and Deputy CEO.

Please join me and our Board of Directors in congratulating Bianca, as she continues to advance her career at Cuscal.”

Bianca has held several senior roles during her time at Cuscal, including Acting General Manager, Product & Service, General Counsel & Company Secretary, Acting General Manager Shared Services and Head of Client Services.

She has over 20 years’ experience in financial services within large public and private US and Australian companies. Prior to Cuscal, she worked in senior legal and compliance company secretariat roles with Genworth, GE Capital and DLA Phillips Fox.

Mastering the 8 elements of disruptive leadership


The Digital CEO, Stephen Scheeler, at Curious Thinkers 2018 in Sydney talking with Cuscal‘s clients about the eight elements of disruptive leadership.

Watch the video to find out the keys to disruptive leadership and how business leaders can learn from the successes of the tech giants to maximise the future success of their own businesses.

Cuscal hits female leadership targets

Cuscal's female leadership with MD Craig Kennedy

A gradual increase in the number of senior female appointments in recent years has helped Cuscal to hit its target of 40% of senior leadership roles to be held by women.

In May this year Helen Mediati, Cuscal’s General Counsel and Company Secretary was appointed to Cuscal’s Leadership Team. This followed the appointment of Bianca Bates to the role of Chief Client Officer, earlier the same month. Cuscal’s Managing Director, Craig Kennedy, says it has been a deliberate part of Cuscal’s long-term strategy:

“Cuscal is a payments company which straddles the worlds of technology and banking, both industries which struggle with gender diversity and female leadership.

We knew that having greater gender balance in our leadership would help make us a stronger, fairer, better company, so we have been working towards a goal of greater senior female leadership for a few years now. Three out of seven of my Leadership Team are now women (43%) and this ratio is consistent throughout leadership positions at Cuscal.

We know there’s still some way to go, for example our diversity at Board level isn’t what we would like it to be, but we’re pleased to hit this target and now need to maintain or improve it.”

Cuscal has employed a range of initiatives to improve diversity, female employment and leadership at Cuscal which include:

  • Creating a Women’s Initiative Network three years ago and then a Diversity and Inclusion Council
  • Mandating that recruiters include at least one suitably qualified female applicant for each role
  • Trialling blind resumes in the project and technology division
  • Reviewing our flexibility policies to ensure consistency in application
  • Extending paid paternity leave from one week to four weeks.

As of May 2018, Cuscal’s ratio of male/female employees was:

  • Board: 13% female, 87% male
  • Leadership Team: 43% female, 57% male
  • All employees: 40% female, 60% male

Pictured L to R: Bianca Bates, Craig Kennedy, Helen Mediati, Christie Welsh