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Curious Thinkers 25: Four Takeaways Shaping the Future of Finance

Last month, we welcomed over 200 clients and partners from across banking, fintech, and payments to Curious Thinkers 2025, our annual event.

The two-day experience invited clients and partners to step back from day-to-day pressures and explore the evolving relationship between humans and technology. Across keynotes, panels, and immersive sessions, discussions moved beyond the next trend or product to the bigger question: how can we build a digital future grounded in trust, empathy, and shared progress?

From artificial intelligence (AI) and identity to leadership and collaboration, the summit revealed four defining themes shaping the road ahead: AI with Purpose, Trust as Advantage, Human Leadership, and Collective Progress.

1. Using AI Responsibly and with Purpose

Artificial intelligence dominated the conversation as a powerful, immediate force reshaping the way we work, connect, and make decisions. The focus has shifted from what’s possible to what’s responsible: how can we harness AI’s potential while managing the risks it creates?

AI is already transforming fraud detection, compliance, and customer experience, unlocking new efficiency and insight, but its value depends on the strength of the systems behind it. This includes the integrity of data, the ethics guiding design, and the governance that ensures accountability. In other words, the race is not to move faster, but to move smarter.

Brad Daffy, Partner at KPMG, noted that while 42% of U.S. organisations already use agentic AI systems to automate workflows across customer service, software development and compliance, accountability remains a key concern.

He also raised that confidence in AI is low locally, with only 36% of Australian’s willing to trust it.

The leaders best positioned to succeed are those who balance ambition with awareness, pairing innovation with a mindset of curious caution. They recognise that sustainable progress requires both speed and control, ensuring AI enhances human decision-making rather than replacing it.

2. Rebuilding Trust Through Payments, Data, and Digital Identity

The conversations at Curious Thinkers underscored a shared reality: consumer confidence has been shaken by the industrial scale of scams, fragmented identity systems, and the erosion of digital privacy.

Sue-Lin Wong, award winning journalist, host of Scam Inc. & Asia Correspondent for the Economist, revealed that scam networks now rival the illegal drug trade, with an estimated global impact of over $500 billion.

Rebuilding that trust is now a collective priority. The path forward lies in creating a more secure, interoperable, and human-centred trust architecture that brings payments, data, and identity together. The convergence of these systems is already underway, paving the way for user-controlled digital identities and verifiable credentials that protect consumers without creating friction.

Marie Austenaa, Head of Digital Identity, Europe, Visa, pointed to the Europe’s eIDAS 2.0 framework as a model for interoperable identity systems.

The Hon. Victor Dominello projected that in Australia, a national digital ID framework could unlock $19–32 billion in annual productivity gains.

Such frameworks have the power to transform the experience of both customers and institutions, replacing cumbersome verification processes with seamless, secure authentication. They also create the foundation for a more resilient digital economy, where security and convenience can finally coexist.

For financial institutions, this shift represents both a challenge and a competitive opportunity. In a world where trust itself has become scarce, being seen as transparent, ethical, and protective of customer well-being is a brand advantage in its own right.

3. The Value of Human Leadership in a Digital World

Beneath the layers of technology and transformation, Curious Thinkers 2025 returned time and again to a single truth: progress is human.

Leaders today are operating in an era defined by complexity and constant change. There is a need for a new kind of leadership that prioritises empathy, resilience, and purpose alongside performance. The ability to connect meaningfully, inspire trust, and foster psychological safety within teams is no longer optional; it’s a strategic capability.

Dr. Adam Fraser, Founder of The Evolution Lab, highlighted the toll of digital transformation on frontline staff, including secondary traumatic stress. Fraser advised leaders to advocate for “psychological first aid” and support emotional wellbeing in the workplace.

Equally, the customer experience has emerged as the ultimate differentiator. In a world of near-instant payments and intelligent automation, it’s emotion that drives loyalty. Organisations that design around human needs, feelings, and expectations are those best placed to stand out in an increasingly commoditised market.

As the pace of change accelerates, so too does the pressure on people. The discussions highlighted a growing awareness of the human toll of digital transformation, from burnout to decision fatigue. Investing in wellbeing, emotional intelligence, and culture isn’t a “soft” initiative; it’s the bedrock of sustainable growth.

4. Driving Growth Through Collaboration

Perhaps the most urgent takeaway is that no organisation can navigate this transformation alone. The challenges facing the payments ecosystem have outgrown the capacity of individual players.

Collaboration has shifted from being a strategic option to an operational necessity. The future will be built on shared infrastructure, collective intelligence, and cross-sector partnerships that balance innovation with inclusion. This ecosystem mindset is already evident in global initiatives that blend public policy, private investment, and regulatory design — and it’s gaining momentum in Australia.

Marie Austenaa described the EU’s digital identity pilots as examples of successful public-private co-creation. Breaking down silos and aligning around common standards will be critical to the next phase of industry progress.

Looking Ahead: Turning Shared Insight into Collective Action

The future of payments will be defined not by how quickly technology evolves, but by how responsibly and collaboratively we use it.

As AI, data, and digital identity continue to reshape the landscape, the real measure of progress will be trust. Trust in systems, in institutions, and in each other. By leading with purpose, empathy, and partnership, the industry can move beyond adaptation to true transformation.

Revisiting Curious Thinkers 2024

Cuscal held its annual invite-only client conference, Curious Thinkers, on 12-13 November 2024 at the W Sydney. There was a talented line up of international and local speakers discussing the possibilities of payments. We heard about the future of payments, the global economy, AI, the digital world we live in, fraud and scams, and data monetisation.

Thanks to our MC Adam Spencer and all our thought-provoking speakers; Alan Thorogood, Angela Powell, Anushri Bansal, Barbara Wixom, Brendan Dowling, Cameron McEvoy, Charlotte Rush, Chris de Wit, Dom Thurbon, Edle Everaert, Evan Craig, Kausar Kenning, Lee Yearsley, Lynne Cardwell, Marc Eames, Michael Blomfield, Monica Muski Angelis, Nathan Churchward, Stela Solar, Tom Rundle, and Tracy Hall.

We look forward to seeing our clients again at Curious Thinkers 2025.

Watch the video to reflect on Curious Thinkers 2024.

Australia’s Opportunity and Responsibility: Shaping a More Secure Region and a Safer Digital World

Brendan Dowling, Australia’s Ambassador for Cyber Affairs and Critical Technology, Department of Foreign Affairs & Trade at Curious Thinkers 2024 in Sydney.

Brendan leads Australia’s international engagement on cyber affairs and critical technology issues, while delivering cyber capacity building, crisis response and building resilience across our region. He also served as the First Assistant Secretary for Digital and Technology Security Policy in Home Affairs.

Watch the video to hear from Brendan on the evolution of cybercrime and the role of every organisation in making clear design and deployment choices that increase the protection for themselves and the broader ecosystem.

Back to the Future: The Workplace for 2025 and Beyond

Charlotte Rush, Head of Growth, Inventium at Curious Thinkers 2024 in Sydney.

Charlotte is an Organisational Psychologist who has worked with organisations in Asia, the United States and Australia, helping them shape their organisation-wide innovation programs and supporting leaders to create great places to work. She has written about innovation, the future of work and organisational psychology.

Watch the video to hear from Charlotte on what it takes to build a workplace that thrives in an era of constant change, growing expectations, and unprecedented opportunity. Are you ready to shape the future?

Curious Thinkers 2023- A Look Back 

In 2023, on the 18-19 September Cuscal held its annual anticipated thought leadership event on the 18th and 19th of September 2023.

This exclusive, invite-only, two-day conference allowed our clients to hear from both local and international experts at the Winx Stand at the Royal Randwick Racecourse. The focus was on the latest data and payment trends, including real-time payments, fraud and scams, global economic outlook, social engineering, and innovative customer solutions that are shaping the industry.

The theme for Curious Thinkers 2023 was: REIMAGINE THE FUTURE: UNLEASH THE POWER OF DATA, DIGITAL, AND REAL-TIME TO ENHANCE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND TRANSFORM YOUR BUSINESS
A huge thank you to all of our speakers who made this Curious Thinkers 2023 a resounding success. Their insights and expertise provided invaluable knowledge and inspiration to all our clients. And thanks to Synechron for kindly sponsoring the pre-dinner drinks on Monday 18 September 2023.

Watch the event wrap up and explore more about the agenda and speakers from Curious Thinkers 2023.

Curious Thinkers conference wrap-up

Curious Thinkers event location shot in Sydney with logo

Our inaugural Curious Thinkers conference, held on 24 & 25 September 2018, took our clients on a journey through innovation, thought leadership, product solutions and more to inspire thinking about the future of payments.

Over the course of the two days we covered a wide range of current and future-focused topics – from what’s happening globally in payments and how that impacts us here in Australia, to open banking, real-time payments, customer experience and how to drive innovation within organisations.

An exceptional line up of international and local thought leaders shared their expertise and insights, including: Dr Leda Glyptis (Chief of Staff, 11:FS), Nuno Sebastiao (CEO, Feedzai), Steven Bankston (Senior Director, Product Development Visa), Stephen Scheeler (The Digital CEO), Charlotte Rush (Innovation Consultant, Inventium), Rocky Scopelliti (Futurologist & Author), Scott Farrell (Partner, KWM) and many more.

Read the Conference highlights from our Chief Client Officer, Bianca Bates.

View video content from Curious Thinkers via the links below:

  • Curious Thinkers 2018 Showreel
  • Day 1 Playlist featuring Charlotte Rush , Rocky Scopelliti, Steven Bankston, Stephen Scheeler,   Adrian Lovney (NPPA), Bianca Bates (Cuscal), Wayne Byres (APRA), Panel Discussion: Unlocking the potential of real-time payments, and Global Innovation Insights in partnership with PYMNTS.com presented by Bianca Bates and Sarah Whiteway (Cuscal)
  • Day 2 Playlist featuring Leda Glyptis, Nuno Sebastiao , Scott Farrell, Andrew Twaits (Bendigo Bank) and Panel Discussions: Open Banking Deep Dive, and Unlocking new tech to drive business growth.

Cuscal Curious Thinkers 2018 Showreel

Held on 24 & 25 September 2018 in Sydney, the inaugural Cuscal client conference “Curious Thinkers” was a journey through innovation, thought leadership, product solutions and more to inspire ideas and thinking for the future of payments.

This video gives a visual summary of the conference, which featured an exceptional line up of international and local thought leaders and experts including: – Dr Leda Glyptis (Chief of Staff, 11:FS) – Nuno Sebastiao (CEO, Feedzai) – Steven Bankston (Senior Director Product Development, Visa) – Stephen Scheeler (The Digital CEO) – Charlotte Rush (Innovation consultant, Inventium) – Rocky Scopelliti (Futurologist and Author) – Scott Farrell (Partner, KWM) and many more.

We would like to thank all our sponsors for their support; eftpos, feedzai, ACI Worldwide, BPAY Group, CA Technologies, Data Action, Kony, Macarthur Print & Ultradata.

AI, machine learning and fraud

Nuno Sebastiao, CEO of Feedzai presented AI at the centre of a crime free financial world at Curious Thinkers 2018 in Sydney.

He gave an overview of the machine learning capabilities of the Feedzai fraud prevention platform. He described how Feedzai uses artificial intelligence and machine learning to continuously learn from the massive amounts of data it processes and provide state-of-the-art fraud prevention.

Kieran McKenna (Cuscal), Leila Fourie (AusPayNet), Nigel Butler (Valocity) & Richard Harris (Feedzai) joined Nuno in a panel discussion on unlocking new tech to drive business growth.

Watch the AI, machine learning and fraud video to learn more.

Open Banking deep dive with Scott Farrell

Scott Farrell, Partner KWM gave a snapshot of the Australian Government’s review of Open Banking in Australia at Curious Thinkers 2018 in Sydney.

Scott outlined how open banking is designed to give customers greater control over their data, giving them more choice in banking and convenience in managing their money.

He discussed how open banking is part of consumers’ broader data rights in Australia. The consumer data right will first apply to the banking sector, with others sectors set to follow.

Brett Miller (Data Action), Danny Gilligan (Data Republic), Ian Pollari (KPMG), & Vanessa Chapman (NPPA) joined Scott in an open banking panel discussion where they discussed the challenges of the timeline for open banking regulation in Australia, the opportunities it presents and the role FinTechs will play in open banking.

Watch the open banking deep dive video to learn more.